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Harry Campbell's avatar

Question via e-mail: "Any idea why the pricing still seems somewhat high in LA?"

I'm guessing because their utilization is lower in LA compared to SF. But really, it's up to Waymo to charge whatever they want. They seem to be pricing 10-20% or more than UberX/Lyft on average ime but there's a lot of variability and it all depends on how much Waymo wants to subsidize each trip. I think it makes sense to charge a premium compared to UberX for now though.

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Sam Penrose's avatar

The 200+k weekly is ~1 / 22,000 of all US car rides (~4.3B/w). They were at 110k in October, so almost double in four+ months. If the doubling period is 6m., they'll be at 1/1000 rides in mid-2027. Uber and Lyft together are ~210M a week, or 1/20. Uber is shifting share to Waymo in Austin. Factors at play:

1. how quickly can they map new cities

2. how quickly can they add vehicles (and the capital to purchase them)

3. are any cities (perhaps because of state regulators) less suitable to Waymo than to U/L (NYC?)

4. what sub-contracting deal do they negotiate with Uber

5. are any cities more suitable to Waymo than to U/L

6. is Waymo's capital cost low enough to compensate for the loss of drivers' unwittingly subsidizing Uber by depreciating their personal cars (and in other ways)

7. ... ?

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